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2013-05-21 12:22 AM
Wow nice link! I didn't know such a thing existed but that really is what I thought and I really am confident I didn't damage the phone myself in anyway. I spoke to Sony on live chat earlier and they said the need to have the handset to examine it. If they find no fault then I'll be charged £10 handelling fee. I don't know what to do as I don't know how they can check I'm telling the truth.
What do you guys think?
2013-05-21 02:12 AM
I'm not going to join sides here and wish you all the best getting your phone sorted ....... but
That article you posted is very obviously referring to glass of industrial building household class of toughened glass - it is not related to dragon or gorilla glass types found in mobile devices
I'm not saying that defects don't occur during manufacture indeed installation but I find that senario highly unlikely
I read these types of threads with interest as I also have an EZ and would not like to be in a sistuation of having to repair my device for breaks in the panels front or back
there is a long history of glass breaking on mobile devices going back to the very first iphones - this glass is tough but I'm also under no illusion that given the right knock it will break - I've seen an EZ being run over by a car and survived but I also believe that a knock in a particular way will likely cause damage
Is there a possible defect causing some of these breakages ? well I would have no idea but I'm also aware that proving such a thing to Sony would be extremely difficult
2013-05-21 07:49 AM
Hey GeoffH, no one should bite your head off for you putting your opinion forward! I certainly will not. I think your right regarding the implied application of the glass in the article, I'm just hoping some of it might apply here. Your last point is indeed my greatest concern, proving to Sony I didn't break it by accident. Which is why I'm not sure to bother sending it off or not.
2013-05-21 11:45 AM
Do not agree with you at all. Glass is still glass. Even Corning do not warranty their Gorilla Glass as unbreakable. Their latest Gorilla Glass 3 cracks on the 3rd drop. See link: http://www.neowin.net/news/galaxy-s4-drop-test-shows-cornings-gorilla-glass-3-is-still-not-impact-re.... What I suspect is that out of let's say 100 tempered glass, 2-5 would be defective. You can't tell it just by looking but over time, the heat generated by the phone will build pressure on the glass and soon enough, it will crack. The shutterprove film is actually to further enhance the toughness but sadly, I think Sony XZ is not made of the top most quality. You can do your own research and notice that similarly designed phone like iPhone 5 and Nexus 4 has the sane issue. But N4 do have more reports of spontaneous glass break. You pay for what you get, but the least Sony can do is look at this issue and I believe they would be able to distinguish abuse from defects.
2013-05-21 02:30 PM
Sorry, but these so called "Tests" on youtube are useless, none of the testers has a standardized build up.
Maybe the S4 has more reports, lets take a look an the Number of sales:
Xperia Z - 4,6 Millions in 40 Days
S4 - 4 millions in 4 Days
You see what i mean?
2013-05-25 05:13 PM
Forgot one Thing:
Even with completely shattered glass works the S4 perfect - the Z, with just a crack, does not!
2013-05-25 09:17 PM
I'm so happy you have found something - be careful with that Samsung - it is actually glass also - good luck and bye bye
2013-05-25 09:32 PM
You are right, i have found something that is a lot better/tougher than the Z, it has Android 4.2 (without Months of begging to the Manufacturer), a much better Camera, the Battery holds more than 2 Times longer, G-Glass 3 and hey, when the G-Glass breaks - the Phone still works absolutely fine.
It´s just 1 Point that speaks for the Z:
Design! The Z is for me the best looking Phone on the Market.
Now make it better Sony, maybe i come back to you when you learned to hold what you promised!
2013-05-25 09:45 PM
don't be dropping that samsung telephone in the big white telephone - it leaks lol
glad you're sorted - can we assume you're going to bend another ear for the next few weeks
2013-05-25 10:35 PM
A very adult answer to clear facts, this is almost like an apple forum, you have my respect!
Sorry for writing my opinions and experiences and not being a fanboy of any manufacturer.
Don't worry, if the s4 has flaws I will write as well in a samsung forum.