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2017-06-19 11:34 PM
Speaking of lawyers is nonsense, I'm not in for legal fights. I want to use the product I paid for. End of story. If Sony is not able to manage that properly, I'll either ask for refund or sell the phone - and never buy a Sony product again, just like I didn't touch a single Dell product in 5 years now. I spent ~5.000 $ on Sony products the last 10 years, sure, not that much, but still. It's gonna be the last Sony-$ of my life. Sony should consider the impact of scaring off loyal customers and risking a marketing disaster.
2017-06-19 11:59 PM
I used today to take a look at all the 350+ pictures I captured with the XZP so far. (people, buildings, animals and stuff)
I only found only 2 where faces looked a bit stange, on those if deliberately had the phone titled around 30 degrees to the side.
It really seems not to be an issue for me so far, still ill follow the discussion but I really can't imagine that there is really such a big problem as some want to see.
So far I have non of the professional reviewers seem complain about it nor gave Google me anything but this thread and a close related one in another forum.
And there sure have been a lot XZP been sold already.
Not to say there is no problem for the people who see one but it does not seem to be a problem for the vast majority of people so far.
Keeping the discussion open, objective and polite would certainly help everybody.
Maybe for most people the brain just autocorrects the distortion out who knows? 🤔
2017-06-20 10:27 AM
Jonyny Illux Patrick2812 feskey
1. SONY, at least at this point, has no intention to fix or reduce the distortion issue by update
Our intention is always to bring you the best product experience. These products are new and we continuosly monitor customer feedback and release software updates. You feedback has been escalated, however we can't comment on the content of those updates at this moment.
2017-06-20 06:34 PM - edited 2017-06-20 06:35 PM
Thank you for replying.
So I take your answer as following:
"SONY listens to user feedback but for this particular matter, they don't know if it's fixable or not".
By the way, you previously wrote:
There are ways to minimize the distortion effects when you take a photo. If any of you knows a source with good tips or are up to sharing their personal expertise in this area, please feel free to do so.
If you say so, can you show us YOUR way to minimize the distortion by yourself instead of asking users to share? I don't meant to be rude, but I can't find it by myself.
2017-06-21 02:42 AM
Does Xperia Z3 compact have the wide FOV lens?
If it does, please refer to this link
Z3c is a lot better than XZs
2017-06-21 02:57 AM - edited 2017-06-21 03:09 AM
I saw some people lost their way when arguing other cellphones have more or less same distortion issue. Come on, issue is not gone no matter if other cellphone have the same problem.
Apple: LG, Sony, Samsung cellphone has same issue, don't blame me
LG: Apple, Sony, Samsung cellphone has same issue, don't blame me
Sony: LG, Apple, Samsung cellphone has same issue, don't blame me
Samsung: LG, Apple, Sony cellphone has same issue, don't blame me
It's an endless cycle.
1. is distrotion acceptable for DSLR camera?
2. is distrotion acceptable for cellphone camera?
3. are we using cameras recording our lifes, our memories?
4. is it acceptable that your memories are full of distrotions but other people say it is OK?
2017-06-21 03:12 AM
I totally agree with you.
What matter is not wether or not other devices have the same level of distortion.
I'm actually surprised that even Sony engineers used this way of "scaling" and concluded that issue is "OK" because other device have about the same level of distortion.
Where is their pride as top-notch camera technology company....
When did they start using other competitors' camera performance as their standard?
Don't they have guts to say "OK, we will be the first one to get rid of issue"?
2017-06-21 07:43 AM - edited 2017-06-21 09:07 AM
Will Sony ever implement a "shape correction" options for the camera like that found in Samsung S phones? There were complaint from consumers of the Galaxy S7 series and their engineers quickly responded with a firmware update where the user could toggle the corrections. From what i can see, the distortion problems found in the S7 series that started the complaint from the consumers are quite similar to the distortion found in Sony. Shout out to the user "feskey" on pointing out a very good example . If SONY engineering team and the admin of the forum does not understand our point then please refer the "shape correction" option found in Samsung S7 series.
2017-06-21 08:44 AM
You are right. Samsung S phones also have the disortion.
They solved it via software-update (released with galaxy s7).
There is a option in camera settings called "Formkorrektur" in german / "shape correction" in englisch which corrects the picture with a algorithm.
Hope Sony is able to implement this.
The problem also exists on Xperia XZ.