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Display Color Calibration

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Display Color Calibration

I have now an X Compact black and the lucid plastic used for it is the same ofthe two lateral sides of XZ Premium. Objectively, is a good material, has its benefits for cellular waves but it is clearly that feels not premium as metal when hold it. However the build quality is superb.

 

Again, I like so much the design of XZ Premium, bezels are useful when holding the device landscape and to have inside the stereo speakers.

 

What disappoint me is the calibration of the display. As showed into PhoneArena.com review, the color chart is worse compared to XZ and X Compact ones, especially the white point. XZ and X Compact match so much the DCI-P3 standard while XZ Premium matches it less. I hoping a better calibration for the premium standard od the display and device. And the display is more and more important compared to materials used.

 

Edit: This topic was moved from the off topic thread since it turned out to be relevant by itself.  // JensG

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Re: Xperia XZ PREMIUM have plastic frame?


@Alessio_84 wrote:

I have now an X Compact black and the lucid plastic used for it is the same ofthe two lateral sides of XZ Premium. Objectively, is a good material, has its benefits for cellular waves but it is clearly that feels not premium as metal when hold it. However the build quality is superb.

 

Again, I like so much the design of XZ Premium, bezels are useful when holding the device landscape and to have inside the stereo speakers.

 

What disappoint me is the calibration of the display. As showed into PhoneArena.com review, the color chart is worse compared to XZ and X Compact ones, especially the white point. XZ and X Compact match so much the DCI-P3 standard while XZ Premium matches it less. I hoping a better calibration for the premium standard od the display and device. And the display is more and more important compared to materials used.

 


Which preset were they using.

Xzp can change the display gamut to suit different needs.

I found the display VERY good 



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Re: Xperia XZ PREMIUM have plastic frame?

PLEASE DON'T DEFEND SONY FOR THEIR MISTAKES! We're not here to defend sony we're here to HELP SONY! IT'S A SONY FORUM ..

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You know higher resolution doesn't mean that you have a better display!

The Quality of PANEL and technology behind it is much much important than higher resolution !

 a Full HD display with MICRO-LED technology have much better picture Quality and deeper black than a 4k IPS LCD ...

 

XZP display have a low CONTRAST (1238:1) THAT IS not acceptable for a phone or even a TV Slightly smiling Face

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Re: Xperia XZ PREMIUM have plastic frame?

@Thelastofus: people are entitled to their own assessment and perspective of the products, you don't have to tell others what to do, please keep the discussion civil and friendly..

 

https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Welcome/Discussion-guidelines/m-p/349678#M1

 

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Re: Xperia XZ PREMIUM have plastic frame?


@Thelastofus wrote:

PLEASE DON'T DEFEND SONY FOR THEIR MISTAKES! We're not here to defend sony we're here to HELP SONY! IT'S A SONY FORUM ..

===========================

You know higher resolution doesn't mean that you have a better display!

The Quality of PANEL and technology behind it is much much important than higher resolution !

 a Full HD display with MICRO-LED technology have much better picture Quality and deeper black than a 4k IPS LCD ...

 

XZP display have a low CONTRAST (1238:1) THAT IS not acceptable for a phone or even a TV Slightly smiling Face


Your point is only valid if you see the display as a mistake.

Imo, having seen one in person and used it, is that it is a very nice, vibrant and clear panel.

I do agree though, that if I need to spend my life with a phone looking at contrast charts, this panel is not suitable, luckily though, I use it for normal use and in normal use, it is VERY capable.

 



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Re: Xperia XZ PREMIUM have plastic frame?

@Viridis

 

Probably I don't explain myself well.

All X series is intended to use the DCI-P3 color chart that is the best and used for movie. What I wanted to notice is the grade of match to this standard. 

Comparing color chart (PhoneArena.com) of X Compact, XZ and XZ Premium, the last matches less of three the DCI-P3 standard (triangle). This is particolar evident for magenta. Additionally, the white point is far away from is might be. XZ and XC match better the standard triangle DCI-P3.

I hoped an excellent color calibration from this superb panel.

 

I hope now it is more clear.

To view directly what I intend, go to PhoneArena XZP review and see the color charts.

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Re: Xperia XZ PREMIUM have plastic frame?


@Alessio_84 wrote:

@viridis

 

Probably I don't explain myself well.

All X series is intended to use the DCI-P3 color chart that is the best and used for movie. What I wanted to notice is the grade of match to this standard. 

Comparing color chart (PhoneArena.com) of X Compact, XZ and XZ Premium, the last matches less of three the DCI-P3 standard (triangle). This is particolar evident for magenta. Additionally, the white point is far away from is might be. XZ and XC match better the standard triangle DCI-P3.

I hoped an excellent color calibration from this superb panel.

 

I hope now it is more clear.

To view directly what I intend, go to PhoneArena XZP review and see the color charts.


I will, thanks for the information 



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Re: Xperia XZ PREMIUM have plastic frame?

I'd rather keep this thread on topic, but will comment the display color options here.

 

@Alessio_84 I think you're referring to this review but when I read the graphs I don't see it say that XZ Premium colors are generally worse than XZ colors. I'm not a color expert, what did I miss?

 

The article however says "three display presets that you can choose from ... the third is meant to present you with the most realistic colors" and "you can adjust the white balance ... and completely get rid of any unwanted tints".

 

When looking at the detailed display review it's also valid to remember the initial statement: "it's hard to find something not to like about it." I think that puts a perspective on things, especially the strictly technical graphs you need to interpret yourself.

 

As @viridis mentions it would be interesting to know which preset they chose for the benchmark test, and they didn't say. The default setting is not aiming mainly for color accuracy, but for a good user experience. For those that want accuracy, try the "professional mode", and perhaps adding manual preference to that.

 

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Re: Xperia XZ PREMIUM have plastic frame?

@JensG

Exactly, I refer to the review you linked. I don't know if you added in color chart section the XZ graph and saw the little differences. I report here the Standard DCI-P3 chart and the XZ and XZP ones to compare directly. The XZP compared is the Standard display option.

I highligth, its an excellent display but less calibrated respect XZ/XC ones, especially magenta and white point (bluish).

 

6500p3pre.jpgStandard DCI-P3 chart: white squares are the color values to matchXZP.jpgXZP color chart. White squares to not consider while referring to sRGB chart.XZ.jpgXZ color chart. White squares to not consider while referring to sRGB chart.

The white balance can't be adjusted without a calibration tool (colorimeter); so the sliders are completely not useful for users. Finally the graphs are not under personal interpretation because data are data.

 

Again, the display is excellent, but not excellent calibrated in term of temperature (cold) and some colors from the standard that it was intended to match.

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Re: Xperia XZ PREMIUM have plastic frame?

A display with 1238:1 contrast and uncalibrated colors is EXCELLENT in your mind ? Why?