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Cinema pro and gimbals.

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Cinema pro and gimbals.

after playing with the app, it's pretty decent, but i'd like it to be updated to work with gimbals, as also using filmic pro, which is really powerful, but is a little overwhelming, so cinema pro isn't as powerful, but the 21:9 is decent, without resizing, and generally i'd like to use the wheels on my smooth 4 to follow focus and adjust the ISO and shutter speed on the fly, i know it'd take both sony, and the gimbal manufacturer to work together for it to work, but it'd just take it to another level, also please give 21:9 and 24fps in the default camera app.

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Re: Cinema pro and gimbals.


@bumbling wrote:

after playing with the app, it's pretty decent, but i'd like it to be updated to work with gimbals, as also using filmic pro, which is really powerful, but is a little overwhelming, so cinema pro isn't as powerful, but the 21:9 is decent, without resizing, and generally i'd like to use the wheels on my smooth 4 to follow focus and adjust the ISO and shutter speed on the fly, i know it'd take both sony, and the gimbal manufacturer to work together for it to work, but it'd just take it to another level, also please give 21:9 and 24fps in the default camera app.


I feel your pain with this one, I just ordered a smooth 4 after selling my osmo mobile last year and aim to use it with cinema pro, the addition of the wheels being compatible would make Xperia 1 a VERY, VERY capable device for would be gimbal using cinematographers. 

We can always hope...

Let me forward this idea and see if I can get any info.



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Re: Cinema pro and gimbals.

This would be interesting and I second this idea. 

 

I would use Filmic Pro with a gimbal (still to buy one) but it does not support 21:9 aspect ratio filming. So that only leaves Cinema Pro for 21:9 films but no direct gimbal support, arrrg

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Re: Cinema pro and gimbals.

So I spoke with the guys at filmic pro. They are gonna look at putting 10bit recording on their development roadmap. Not sure about 21:9 - But in any case. the 21:9 on cinema pro is simply a crop of the sensor, which could be done in a post process. I guess many want the convienence. 

 

The game seems to be about restricting users to basic features. After all - 4k 10bit recording is really very high quality and offers a lot of ability for creativity, and I can see that the might worry about people not bothering with spending 10s of thousands on a pro device and all the glass that is needed with it. But it seems obvious that those of us who are making low budget but higly creative content, wouldn't spend that money anyway.

 

Getting gimble support would be great. I think it most likely to come from a third party app. But I am a plus 1 for sony adding support.

 

 

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Re: Cinema pro and gimbals.

Filmic actually does different aspect ratios, but no 21:9.

So it would make sense to add it then bud. 

 

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Re: Cinema pro and gimbals.

Sure, yeah. Sounds good. I guess I was badly indicating my own priorities, nothing more. Slightly smiling Face  I prefer to have all of the sensor captured and then sort it all out in post. 

Thats the biggest frustration with the standard camera app. It is giving full sensor 10bit video, but there is no refined control (focus, iso etc).

 

So far, filmic is also giving most of the features that I want, but not the full color gamut of the stacked sensors. 

 

I havn't asked the filmicpro people about the 21:9 format. So it may not be on their radar yet. Might be worth giving their support a ping. I will mention  it, next time I catch up with them.

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Re: Cinema pro and gimbals.

I did ask Filmic Pro about 21.9 support and they said that once they had an Xperia 1 to test and fully debug, they'd take a run at supporting the wide screen if it proves a viable pursuit, so we can only hope!

 

Regarding gimbal support for the Smooth 4, that's down to Zhiyun working with Sony to make the Smooth 4's functions compatible with Cinema Pro. I've used my Smooth 4 with my Xperia 1 without any real hardship to not being able to use the focus wheel, although it would be nice.

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Re: Cinema pro and gimbals.

Kudos for this one, mate 

 

Thanks very much for all your fantastic efforts on this matter Slightly smiling Face 

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Re: Cinema pro and gimbals.

No problem, it's good having this forum for people to help each other out!

 

I saw your photo's, are you a Leeds local?

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Re: Cinema pro and gimbals.

Yes buddy, I work for Yorkshire Post and live in Morley.